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		<title>By: Cuantificación del entrenamiento mediante CERVEZAS - Análisis de productos. ZitaSport</title>
		<link>http://www.cyclismas.com/biscuits/a-different-approach-to-comparing-climbing-performances/#comment-1241</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cuantificación del entrenamiento mediante CERVEZAS - Análisis de productos. ZitaSport]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2015 22:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] A different approach to comparing climbing performances [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] A different approach to comparing climbing performances [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: 2014 Giro d&#039;Italia Climb Preview &#124; veloclinic</title>
		<link>http://www.cyclismas.com/biscuits/a-different-approach-to-comparing-climbing-performances/#comment-1083</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[2014 Giro d&#039;Italia Climb Preview &#124; veloclinic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2014 06:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] normalized W/kg power outputs using the Martin Model. 4. Make sense of the performances with a pVAM and Mean Maximal Power [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] normalized W/kg power outputs using the Martin Model. 4. Make sense of the performances with a pVAM and Mean Maximal Power [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Ax-3-Domaines: History, VAMs and performance predictions &#124; The Science of Sport</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ax-3-Domaines: History, VAMs and performance predictions &#124; The Science of Sport]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jul 2013 11:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] such prediction method, developed by Scott Richards and explained here, is the pVAM method.  Basically, what was done was to gather the climbing performance data from the Grand Tours in the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] such prediction method, developed by Scott Richards and explained here, is the pVAM method.  Basically, what was done was to gather the climbing performance data from the Grand Tours in the [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Doping - Page 41 - London Fixed-gear and Single-speed</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jun 2013 10:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] This guy has published his methodology of comparing climbing performances using a predicted VAM vs actual VAM.  Then he plotted riders performances in the Giro this year over time and it generally showed most of the climbers performed better than pVAM in first week of Giro and then drifted towards or below the pVAM he&#039;d calculated later in the race.   The actual winners VAMs all seem to be bob-on what is predicted using 2008-2012 rides as the model&#039;s start point.    and riders getting slower on fimnal climbs vs pVAM as the Giro went on which is what you&#039;d expect, except for Nibbles and Uran who are able to smash it on the last climb stg. 20 when everyone else was dying. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] This guy has published his methodology of comparing climbing performances using a predicted VAM vs actual VAM.  Then he plotted riders performances in the Giro this year over time and it generally showed most of the climbers performed better than pVAM in first week of Giro and then drifted towards or below the pVAM he&#039;d calculated later in the race.   The actual winners VAMs all seem to be bob-on what is predicted using 2008-2012 rides as the model&#039;s start point.    and riders getting slower on fimnal climbs vs pVAM as the Giro went on which is what you&#039;d expect, except for Nibbles and Uran who are able to smash it on the last climb stg. 20 when everyone else was dying. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: CycloChris</title>
		<link>http://www.cyclismas.com/biscuits/a-different-approach-to-comparing-climbing-performances/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CycloChris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Mar 2013 18:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scott Richards - this is a fascinating piece Scott, I really think you&#039;re on to something. Is there any chance of getting your data? I&#039;m a political science PhD student, and whilst my research obviously has nothing to do with cycling I spend a lot of time running regressions and I&#039;d like to explore your data a bit further. In short what I want to do is see whether there are any &#039;climb specific&#039; effects that you aren&#039;t taking into account which might be biasing your results. I&#039;m thinking of things like the number of hairpins and altitude, which because they&#039;re the same for each climb are easy to take into account using fixed effects or a mixed-effect multi-level modelling approach. Please get in touch, you can find me on Twitter @CycloChris]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott Richards &#8211; this is a fascinating piece Scott, I really think you&#8217;re on to something. Is there any chance of getting your data? I&#8217;m a political science PhD student, and whilst my research obviously has nothing to do with cycling I spend a lot of time running regressions and I&#8217;d like to explore your data a bit further. In short what I want to do is see whether there are any &#8216;climb specific&#8217; effects that you aren&#8217;t taking into account which might be biasing your results. I&#8217;m thinking of things like the number of hairpins and altitude, which because they&#8217;re the same for each climb are easy to take into account using fixed effects or a mixed-effect multi-level modelling approach. Please get in touch, you can find me on Twitter @CycloChris</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Richards</title>
		<link>http://www.cyclismas.com/biscuits/a-different-approach-to-comparing-climbing-performances/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Richards]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2013 00:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AltimusChangThe point wasn&#039;t that doping hasn&#039;t occurred in the period, rather that 
2008 represents the last change to the testing/enforcement regime thus 
the limits to doping were the same for the whole 5 years (sans UCI 
foolery). This means results in this period should in theory be closer 
together than if you were to go all the way back to say 2002. Doping 
isn&#039;t in the model, it&#039;s good because we can measure it in the residual,
 but if there is too much doping variability the overall accuracy would 
be compromised.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AltimusChangThe point wasn&#8217;t that doping hasn&#8217;t occurred in the period, rather that<br />
2008 represents the last change to the testing/enforcement regime thus<br />
the limits to doping were the same for the whole 5 years (sans UCI<br />
foolery). This means results in this period should in theory be closer<br />
together than if you were to go all the way back to say 2002. Doping<br />
isn&#8217;t in the model, it&#8217;s good because we can measure it in the residual,<br />
 but if there is too much doping variability the overall accuracy would<br />
be compromised.</p>
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		<title>By: AltimusChang</title>
		<link>http://www.cyclismas.com/biscuits/a-different-approach-to-comparing-climbing-performances/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AltimusChang]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, the textbox editor doesn&#039;t pick up the html.  In simpler language.

From the article: Specifically, it is expected that with the introduction of the 
biopassport in 2008, this time period will be a more realistic baseline 
that is not as skewed by the effects of doping.
There&#039;s no way recent results aren&#039;t doped.  No way.  You need to go back to about Lemond/Hinault era for no blood doping.  Even then, I don&#039;t know what transfusions were/were not happening.  We do know that Grand Tour winners consistently rode and contested a wide variety of races all year long.Which is good enough for me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, the textbox editor doesn&#8217;t pick up the html.  In simpler language.</p>
<p>From the article: Specifically, it is expected that with the introduction of the<br />
biopassport in 2008, this time period will be a more realistic baseline<br />
that is not as skewed by the effects of doping.<br />
There&#8217;s no way recent results aren&#8217;t doped.  No way.  You need to go back to about Lemond/Hinault era for no blood doping.  Even then, I don&#8217;t know what transfusions were/were not happening.  We do know that Grand Tour winners consistently rode and contested a wide variety of races all year long.Which is good enough for me.</p>
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		<title>By: AltimusChang</title>
		<link>http://www.cyclismas.com/biscuits/a-different-approach-to-comparing-climbing-performances/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AltimusChang]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Specifically, it is expected that with the introduction of the 
biopassport in 2008, this time period will be a more realistic baseline 
that is not as skewed by the effects of doping.&lt;/i&gt;
Fail.  See Ashenden&#039;s feud with the UCI.  The UCI had clearly positive samples from Armstrong&#039;s &quot;comeback&quot; that did not get routed out of the APMU while riders with similar clearly positive results were routed and sanctioned.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&lt;i&gt;Specifically, it is expected that with the introduction of the<br />
biopassport in 2008, this time period will be a more realistic baseline<br />
that is not as skewed by the effects of doping.&lt;/i&gt;<br />
Fail.  See Ashenden&#8217;s feud with the UCI.  The UCI had clearly positive samples from Armstrong&#8217;s &#8220;comeback&#8221; that did not get routed out of the APMU while riders with similar clearly positive results were routed and sanctioned.</p>
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		<title>By: outhousesportsb</title>
		<link>http://www.cyclismas.com/biscuits/a-different-approach-to-comparing-climbing-performances/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[outhousesportsb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A very good profile of climbing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very good profile of climbing.</p>
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		<title>By: Scotty_Cycles</title>
		<link>http://www.cyclismas.com/biscuits/a-different-approach-to-comparing-climbing-performances/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scotty_Cycles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is this going to be available in a an app or macro for Excel, etc?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this going to be available in a an app or macro for Excel, etc?</p>
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